But no, Zavala made a demand that the Reef would never agree with, and the Guardians remained away. When Variks appealed to Zavala in hopes of him taking the Reef over from Petra, who wasn't particularly great at leading the Reef at the time, they almost got the Guardians to return, which is what they wanted. See, the Nine desired for a large force of Guardians to be stationed in the Reef, but the City and the Reef weren't cooperating anymore after the Red War. This is mostly speculation, based on what Skolas reported to Mara Sov in "The Kell" concerning the involvement of the Nine in the Wolf Rebellion. Human error and five formless pricks also had a hand in the incident. He probably didn't even know that Cayde would get killed in the shoot-out that followed. Variks does indeed hold the most blame for the prison break, being the one who caused it.īut he wasn't solely responsible, oh no. The fact that the psions would have that kind of information at all, gives them a bit of credibility.Īlso things like fail-safe wanting a body and being implanted in a exo(fail-safe mentions as much in the raid voice lines).Įven something like a version of cayde returning is plausible, if highly unlikely. And Eris hasn't shown any signs of being informed as well, despite apprentely being with the queen for half a year on a cosmic scavenger hunt. The only other 2 references are the cutscene Mara showed us, and the vision in the lore entry for sleepless which just mentions a living Uldren(which based on timing of the lore release, and it being events that didn't happen yet just suggest a revived Uldren)Īs far as we know, not even the vanguard knows about uldrens revival. And not all entries have to be made on those glimpses.įor example the chronicon contains the only reference to Uldren being a guardian, period in all lore. I think it is more occasional glimpses into certain things, that the pain scribes then create entire fantasies around to please calus and tell him what he wants to hear. What's Rasputin's favorite dance? "The worm." >!What's Rasputin's favorite dance? "The worm."!< See the Spoiler Rules Wiki Page for more information. Spoiler Post titles must begin with the following tag. That includes most unsourced, unofficially-obtained material. Comments that contain unmarked spoilers will be removed. Spoilers must be marked and cannot be included in post titles. Absolutely no witchhunting.įollow spoiler rules: Follow spoiler tag rules for posts and comments. Do not use offensive/harassing language when addressing other users. Keep it civil: Follow Reddiquette and be civil. Links & videos should only be an addition to a well-constructed post. No spam: No spam, advertising, or blatant self-promotion. Low-effort content & reposts: Low-effort/low-quality content, frequent reposts, and memes will be removed at the moderators' discretion.Ĭheck the Formatting & Sourcing Guide for tips on making high-quality posts that are easy to read. To discuss general Destiny-related topics, please visit r/DestinyTheGame. Must be related to Destiny's lore: This subreddit is specifically for discussing and dissecting the lore of Destiny. Welcome to DestinyLore This Week In Destiny Lore - 9/21/21 | Join the DestinyLore Discord Server | Weekly Questions Thread | Frequently Asked Questions General